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If it was shipped as you mentioned it would have been done as an "other", completely legal to reconfigure into a pistol. If you ever visit ar15.com they have industry forum and PSA is a member and will respond fairly quickly. eta: it's not a rifle until a fully assembled upper is installed and I am sure by your description that you never installed an upper on it.
Funny I just realized that tomorrow was the day I ordered the parts for my first ar pistol 15 years ago, seems like a lifetime ago.Last edited by Lastrites; 06-04-2020, 10:22 PM.
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Originally posted by Lastrites View PostIf it was shipped as you mentioned it would have been done as an "other", completely legal to reconfigure into a pistol. If you ever visit ar15.com they have industry forum and PSA is a member and will respond fairly quickly. eta: it's not a rifle until a fully assembled upper is installed and I am sure by your description that you never installed an upper on it.
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Well the whole world can see its a rifle lower now, since you posted it here.
Legal once you put a rifle stock on it, it's always a rifle.
If it had come with a brace, then you would be good.
If it was a stripped lower you could build it into a pistol.
I mean you still could but the feds if need be could back track to this thread and see that you did technicly break the law.
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Originally posted by A5BLASTER View PostWell the whole world can see its a rifle lower now, since you posted it here.
Legal once you put a rifle stock on it, it's always a rifle.
If it had come with a brace, then you would be good.
If it was a stripped lower you could build it into a pistol.
I mean you still could but the feds if need be could back track to this thread and see that you did technicly break the law.
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A5 I tried to lead him the proper way but he didn't take the hook and then TMI was passed. Guess the best thing at this point is to just purge the posts but we all know once it's been typed "they" have their ways to recreate.
Just a thought, hey FL when you received that lower did you happen to remove the stock when first cleaning it up and checking out and by chance you placed a <16" upper on it thus making it a pistol originally? All my builds begin as pistols then I go from there.Last edited by Lastrites; 06-05-2020, 09:16 PM.
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Question: If a lower is transferred to you as an "other" then what does the ATF care what it is at any time? It is always an "other" lower in whatever configuration they find it. They care a lot when a lower registered as a "rifle" when first transferred to the original owner is found in short configuration. Caviat: Do not put a rifle stock on a lower with a shorter than 16" OAL barrel, without paying the stamp and waiting on the approval. You may put a rifle length barreled upper on a pistol braced lower at any time without repercussion.
The ATF has no clue how you build your "other" lower - at any time you own it, unless you provide pictures and words in print to the contrary.
The only lower you may build to a shorter than rifle length pistol is one that was originally transferred to you as an "other". I don't know if there is an option to register a lower as a "pistol", I don't believe there is.
Rule: If a lower was originally transferred and registered as a "rifle" then it is always a rifle lower, period. If a lower was originally transferred as a "other" lower, then it can me bade (built) into any configuration the owner so desires, providing they can prove they are following the rules and standards they change at their whim.
Do not build a lower you buy privately as a pistol. Ever. Period. Buy a stripped lower or pistol built lower new at/from a licensed FFL, have it transferred to you as a new receiver as the original "owner", then carry on in any form you wish.
SBR = the dangerous step child. If you're going to put a rifle/carbine stock on the lower, and have a shorter than 16 OAL barrel, pay the stamp and wait.Last edited by Kswhitetails; 06-07-2020, 03:40 PM.Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.
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Originally posted by Kswhitetails View PostQuestion: If a lower is transferred to you as an "other" then what does the ATF care what it is at any time? It is always an "other" lower in whatever configuration they find it. They care a lot when a lower registered as a "rifle" when first transferred to the original owner is found in short configuration.
The ATF has no clue how you build your "other" lower - at any time you own it, unless you provide pictures and words in print to the contrary.
The only lower you may build to a shorter than rifle length pistol is one that was originally transferred to you as an "other". I don't know if there is an option to register a lower as a "pistol", I don't believe there is.
Rule: If a lower was originally transferred and registered as a "rifle" then it is always a rifle lower, period. If a lower was originally transferred as a "other" lower, then it can me bade (built) into any configuration the owner so desires, providing they can prove they are following the rules and standards they change at their whim.
Do not build a lower you buy privately as a pistol. Ever. Period. Buy a stripped lower or pistol built lower, have it transferred to you as a new receiver as the original "owner", then carry on in any form you wish.
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Your better off useing on of your stripped lowers that's never had any buffer tube and stock on it.
Regardless of what psa are your ffl has told you. If something happens and the atf gets involved, they have all the proff written right here in this thread to burn you.
It's not worth the risk my freind, just use a lower that's never had a buffer tube installed on it before and then you will never have to have that idea in your head should something happen.
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