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    Are 223/556 and 6.5 bolt carriers interchangeable? I have a nickeled carrier I'd like to use in my Grendel.....
  • Drifter
    Chieftain
    • Mar 2011
    • 1662

    #2
    Yes
    Drifter

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    • leopard6.5

      #3
      Steve357: Yes but all .223/5.56 carriers are not the same.

      There is a difference between an AR-15 and a M16 carrier.
      The M16 carrier has more mass( weight) than the AR-15 carriers and thus the M16 carrier helps to slow down the movement when fired.
      This is especially helpful when it comes to the Grendel as sometimes it is over-gassed.

      It's best to use the M16 carrier and a buffer weight that is the same as a regular rifle length buffer.

      Good Luck and welcome to the horde.

      Lee

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      • #4
        Originally posted by leopard6.5 View Post
        Steve357: Yes but all .223/5.56 carriers are not the same.

        There is a difference between an AR-15 and a M16 carrier.
        The M16 carrier has more mass( weight) than the AR-15 carriers and thus the M16 carrier helps to slow down the movement when fired.
        This is especially helpful when it comes to the Grendel as sometimes it is over-gassed.

        It's best to use the M16 carrier and a buffer weight that is the same as a regular rifle length buffer.

        Good Luck and welcome to the horde.

        Lee
        Ditto on what Lee posted, with the Grendel a heavier BCG and recoil buffer are advantageous.

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        • #5
          The advice on the heavier bolt carrier is good. I would add that you may want to look into an adjustable gas block. I have one on my 18" and it was really useful when setting the gun up.

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          • #6
            But you have to consider, any single part that can be used in full auto, can be illegal, although it takes 6 parts to make a semiauto a full auto. Ownership of one part can show intent to manufacture a full auto. The bolt carrier is the one piece that is not clear, but I won't own a M16 carrier because I don't want to bring any doubt into the scenario.

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            • leopard6.5

              #7
              fanofflyn: I remember reading here before and I'll keep looking for the post, that the fed made an exception for the bolt carrier so using an M16 carrier is not considered a full auto part.

              When I find the post I'll post it since it also had a copy of the fed's ruling.

              Lee

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              • Drifter
                Chieftain
                • Mar 2011
                • 1662

                #8
                Originally posted by fanofflyn View Post
                But you have to consider, any single part that can be used in full auto, can be illegal, although it takes 6 parts to make a semiauto a full auto. Ownership of one part can show intent to manufacture a full auto. The bolt carrier is the one piece that is not clear, but I won't own a M16 carrier because I don't want to bring any doubt into the scenario.
                M16 bolt carrier is not illegal for use in AR-15:

                Drifter

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the info, I'll take all of it under advisement....I cant do the adjustable gas block, It's a mid-length with a rifle length guard with a low profile gas-block....

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                  • leopard6.5

                    #10
                    Thanks Drifter for finding that about the M16 carriers. I knew I had seen it somewhere.

                    Steve: There is a thread on the forum about a front adjustable gas block so you could use the rifle length handguard with your mid-length gas system.

                    Here's the link: http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...w-front-access

                    Good Luck.

                    Lee

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                    • #11
                      Hey thanks for the info on the bolt carrier. I have always been a little paranoid about big brother.

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                      • sneaky one
                        Chieftain
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 3077

                        #12
                        I believe all the AA carriers, in their uppers are M- 16 style/ wt. My AA upper came with one. Totally legal.

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                        • #13
                          There are plenty of manufacturers who only use M16 carriers, and they are well-advised legally. DD, BCM, Spike's, Noveske, CMMG and others provide this as standard. None of them are in the business of going out of business.

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                          • pinzgauer
                            Warrior
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 440

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LRRPF52 View Post
                            There are plenty of manufacturers who only use M16 carriers, and they are well-advised legally.
                            I've been told Colt has shipped M-16 carriers in it's semiauto Civvy/LE carbines for years

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                            • Variable
                              Chieftain
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2403

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pinzgauer View Post
                              I've been told Colt has shipped M-16 carriers in it's semiauto Civvy/LE carbines for years
                              Yes, I have received some.
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