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  • cwlongshot
    Warrior
    • Mar 2018
    • 404

    #31
    Mine went back on there dime last Friday.

    Hopping I get a better one. If not I'll request to BCA personally.

    CW

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    • Sticks
      Chieftain
      • Dec 2016
      • 1922

      #32
      Need to change the title of the thread to "Bear Creek rises to the top...like a turd that just won't flush"

      Gonna take an awful lot for them to regain the trust of a lot of members here.

      There was a thread started by Frontier Gear about barrel MFGs. Need to flag BCA and BSF as NOT Good to Go.
      Sticks

      Catchy sig line here.

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      • Twkenny
        Unwashed
        • May 2018
        • 8

        #33
        Originally posted by Sticks View Post
        Need to change the title of the thread to "Bear Creek rises to the top...like a turd that just won't flush"

        Gonna take an awful lot for them to regain the trust of a lot of members here.

        There was a thread started by Frontier Gear about barrel MFGs. Need to flag BCA and BSF as NOT Good to Go.
        I'll never purchase from them again. Not worth the aggravation.

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        • cwlongshot
          Warrior
          • Mar 2018
          • 404

          #34
          Originally posted by cwlongshot View Post
          Mine went back on there dime last Friday.

          Hopping I get a better one. If not I'll request to BCA personally.

          CW
          Barrel was replaced and back to me in 10 days!

          I shot it yesterday using same ammo that did not "work" before. Not getting my hopes up just yet... but I shot many groups with bullets touching. VERY HAPPY with this PA 4.5x14x44 Scope!! But the gun feels and handles SO SOLIDLY I really like shooting it.
          No pics as its first shooting and noting to "brag on" really. But shooting well for a brand new barrel!

          CW

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          • ported45
            Warrior
            • Feb 2018
            • 283

            #35
            Originally posted by cwlongshot View Post
            Glad to read you have a good barrel now. Hope it shoots for ya!

            I was able to fire my 20" sts fluted HB BCA Grendel barrel yesterday for the first time. (Just about 20 rnds of 123 & 95G Hornadys.)

            I was concerned as the very first thing I did with my barrel was drop a loaded bullet into the chamber and when inverted...it did not fall out. But it was oil, not a bullet into the rifling... I ran a patch down and to my surprise I had powder residue. I ran 4-5 patches with solvent then a brush then two dry patches before It was coming clean. SO at the very least tis one was test fired.

            Yesterday, I loaded it up and test fired... one round and altho it ejected, it didn't pick up a new cartridge... I repeated this three times. I swapped lowers, with my 25/45 and it ran fine. I checked and somehow used the wrong main spring.

            I did not measure the chamber, but 123 A-max and 95g SST's seated to 2.257 do not tough anything. Because of the MS issue I never really shot for accuracy, But the 123's produced single ragged hole and the 95g would touch holes at 50 yards.

            CW

            Just got barrel #4. They swapped me a stainless 5R for the Melonite conventional rifling with the short throats again. Both were 20" straight fluted. This one is 2.304" to rifling with the Nosler 120 BT and a factory Hornady Black drops all the way in and slides out on its own! Finally!!

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            • Kswhitetails
              Chieftain
              • Oct 2016
              • 1914

              #36
              Originally posted by ported45 View Post
              Just got barrel #4.
              You had me at #2... or should I say lost me...?
              Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.

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              • ported45
                Warrior
                • Feb 2018
                • 283

                #37
                Originally posted by Kswhitetails View Post
                You had me at #2... or should I say lost me...?
                It was a journey of frustration!

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                • Dinny
                  Warrior
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 607

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ported45 View Post
                  Just got barrel #4. They swapped me a stainless 5R for the Melonite conventional rifling with the short throats again. Both were 20" straight fluted. This one is 2.304" to rifling with the Nosler 120 BT and a factory Hornady Black drops all the way in and slides out on its own! Finally!!
                  JB,
                  Please let us know how it shoots. Sometimes things appear good on the outside (disassembled)...

                  Thanks, Dinny

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                  • ported45
                    Warrior
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 283

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dinny View Post
                    JB,
                    Please let us know how it shoots. Sometimes things appear good on the outside (disassembled)...

                    Thanks, Dinny

                    Loaded up some 129 Hornady SP, 129 Nosler ABLR, and 120 Nosler BT last night to give 'er a go when I get a chance. Also going to take along that box of Hornady Black.

                    I'm not gonna hold my breath that I get great groups, but we are starting out better than any of the previous three barrels so far!!

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                    • ported45
                      Warrior
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 283

                      #40
                      Final update from me on BCA. The stainless barrel had an appropriate length neck in it, but that didn't help much.

                      It shot so bad that I thought my scope had given up on me, so I replaced it with a new Nikon. Still spraying rounds. 5.25" group with the Hornady Black. BCA says that they are giving me a full refund when they get the upper back in their hands.

                      I'M DONE!!!! Four tries is plenty for me. Spent in excess of $200 in bullets, brass, powder, gas, and factory ammo on this endeavor.

                      Congrats to all those who accidentally got a good barrel from BCA. Pretty sure that is not the norm.

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                      • Kswhitetails
                        Chieftain
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1914

                        #41
                        I'm beginning to think that BCA's strategy is to keep sending folks junk returns until they get tired of dealing with the issues and just go away. I wonder what their doing with the returned barrels? Here, this guy may have better luck with this one that the last guy did, see if he sends it back too...

                        IDK, I'm not one to bash a company for a legitimate mistake, but from reports of knowledgeable and truthful owners, this just isn't the case. They seem to have gone from "oops, here let me make that right", to "oh well, there's got to be a good one in here somewhere". Not my kind of business model.

                        The thing is, if they were $75 dollar barrels then I'd say that's to be expected, oh wait...
                        Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.

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                        • A5BLASTER
                          Chieftain
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 6192

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Kswhitetails View Post
                          I'm beginning to think that BCA's strategy is to keep sending folks junk returns until they get tired of dealing with the issues and just go away. I wonder what their doing with the returned barrels? Here, this guy may have better luck with this one that the last guy did, see if he sends it back too...

                          IDK, I'm not one to bash a company for a legitimate mistake, but from reports of knowledgeable and truthful owners, this just isn't the case. They seem to have gone from "oops, here let me make that right", to "oh well, there's got to be a good one in here somewhere". Not my kind of business model.

                          The thing is, if they were $75 dollar barrels then I'd say that's to be expected, oh wait...
                          I'm still waiting on my refund for the m4 cut 16 inch grendel barrel they make I got off classic for just over 40 bucks.

                          Yea I know bottom of the sludge in the barrel pricing but I figured they couldn't mess up a barrel so bad that it would be good enough for 100 yard and closer hunting and self defense, well boy howdy was I wrong.

                          Gas port cut off center
                          Short throat
                          Tight chamber from the coating/scratching brass all the heck
                          Extention had to be made out of some very pore steel due to it having a very bad nick in it and simple hand chambering rounds caused anouther bad nick.

                          So back it went for refund.

                          Don't really blame classic firearms but dang BCA y'all should be ashamed of yourself for producing such junk and passing it off as a good product.

                          I personally will never tell someone to ever spend money on their products.

                          I sure hope that the trash they are making doesn't put a stain on the grendel in the eyes of the shooting public.

                          I wonder if BBB could do something to shut them down for not producing products that even come close to meeting spec and for producing products that or unsafe to the consumer.

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                          • ErikS
                            Warrior
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 138

                            #43
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                            Not all BCA barrels are junk. Just saying. There is a ton of hate for the company but not all bad.
                            #shareyourspare

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                            • ported45
                              Warrior
                              • Feb 2018
                              • 283

                              #44
                              Except lousy seems to be winning out in the odds of getting a good barrel from BCA.

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                              • ported45
                                Warrior
                                • Feb 2018
                                • 283

                                #45
                                Originally posted by A5BLASTER View Post
                                I'm still waiting on my refund for the m4 cut 16 inch grendel barrel they make I got off classic for just over 40 bucks.

                                Yea I know bottom of the sludge in the barrel pricing but I figured they couldn't mess up a barrel so bad that it would be good enough for 100 yard and closer hunting and self defense, well boy howdy was I wrong.

                                Gas port cut off center
                                Short throat
                                Tight chamber from the coating/scratching brass all the heck
                                Extention had to be made out of some very pore steel due to it having a very bad nick in it and simple hand chambering rounds caused anouther bad nick.

                                So back it went for refund.

                                Don't really blame classic firearms but dang BCA y'all should be ashamed of yourself for producing such junk and passing it off as a good product.

                                I personally will never tell someone to ever spend money on their products.

                                I sure hope that the trash they are making doesn't put a stain on the grendel in the eyes of the shooting public.

                                I wonder if BBB could do something to shut them down for not producing products that even come close to meeting spec and for producing products that or unsafe to the consumer.
                                Don't know how long you have been waiting on the refund, but I already have my refund back.

                                I will say, their product is often junk, but I have had nothing but stellar experience with their Customer Service!!

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