AA 2200 for Grendel

[libertyman777]

I was looking through my powder supply to see if I had anything to load 6.5 Grendel. I've got a pound of Varget and a bit of H335. Then I remembered the 16 pounds of AA2200 that I picked up a while back. The data listed on the jug states that it can be used to load both .223 and 7.62x39. If I understand this burn chart correctly and how powders are numbered, it seems be similar to Benchmark and H335. Is this correct?

http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

Thanks,

Paul

[LRRPF52]

Accurate just put out a bunch of new data for it. What bullet are you looking to shoot?

It appears to be better suited for the 85gr-100gr bullets.

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/WP_LoadSpec_7-2-13.pdf

[Schwag173]

I've had good luck with 26.0 grains of AA2200 and the 120gr Sierra Pro-Hunter (soft-point flat-base). COL of 2.240" and muzzle velocity is about 2350fps. With a 7x scope I'm averaging 1.25" groups at 200 yards out of my 18" 1-8" barrel (best was about 0.75"). When I get around to buying that Vortex 6-24x that I've been lusting after, this average might shrink. Grendel Group.jpg

[mseric]

I was looking through my powder supply to see if I had anything to load 6.5 Grendel. I've got a pound of Varget and a bit of H335. Then I remembered the 16 pounds of AA2200 that I picked up a while back. The data listed on the jug states that it can be used to load both .223 and 7.62x39. If I understand this burn chart correctly and how powders are numbered, it seems be similar to Benchmark and H335. Is this correct?

http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

Thanks,

Paul

Ya lost me with this one. AA 2200 is not even listed in the Hodgdon Burn chart you posted a link to.

No, AA 2200 is not similar to Benchmark and 335, it is must faster than those. It has a similar burn rate to R-7.

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/burn_rates.pdf

Here is Grendel data for AA 2200.

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/WP_LoadSpec_7-2-13.pdf

Accurate does put out a warning that 2200 may be to fast burning to cycle the action of some AR type rifles. Found here.

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DP2200.pdf

[Schwag173]

Maybe I'm just lucky but my two Grendels have had zero problems cycling 2200.

[LRRPF52]

Maybe I'm just lucky but my two Grendels have had zero problems cycling 2200.

Do you have a MLGS? That would probably help with cycling a really fast powder, since the 18" MLGS has a lot of dwell time.

[sneaky one]

Guys, it's the exact powder as - Ramshot Xterminator. I talked to the tech mgr. in 2010. He said it came from the same container=huge. Trust it, I still have some here. It has it's own unique odor is all. Peeyoueeee.

They May have changed the burn rate a bit- lately=why would they? I used this back in 09 for my 95 GMX tests=it's fine. Same today. Very accurate. So is 2460.

Nothing wrong with a slightly faster powder, using lighter bullets, as long as the burn rate, powder uploading- doesn't accelerate faster than the bullet wt. drop=don't jump ahead of yourself as for being a speedster.
Iv'e been there. Fast is fun!
Your bolt will fail firstly- then the Carrier, upper receiver-, sadly you are next in line on a tube gun, such as an AR style of weapon. No buffer will save you from a death= yours.

Follow recommended loadings, stick to, and study all the charts , & info you can find from all the major manufacturers. Do not over load any round! Study the primers, trust what u see.

I will broadcast no more powder charges, to a non specified expert in the field of reloading- in this forum section. I will only respond to PM's of known levels of safe reloading habits- per team member. It's time to upgrade your own game.

If you need to ask every week of this rifle -and it's small issues, etc. That have been answered -over & over again= I still believe that a many underage kids are on this forum- that should not be!-Just tryin for info, whether it's for hunting purposes or not=this ends tonite,,,

Bwaites =maybe it's time for a recheck on the member lists.

[longdayjake]

Guys, it's the exact powder as - Ramshot Xterminator.

No, it isn't. You are thinking of AA2230.

And seriously, step down from your high horse for a while. Education is never a bad thing. Especially when firearms are involved.

[mseric]

Jake is correct, AA 2230 is identical to Ramshot X-Terminator, not AA 2200

http://www.accuratepowder.com/products/rifle/

[Drifter]

Guys, it's the exact powder as - Ramshot Xterminator. I talked to the tech mgr. in 2010. He said it came from the same container=huge. Trust it, I still have some here. It has it's own unique odor is all. Peeyoueeee.

They May have changed the burn rate a bit- lately=why would they? I used this back in 09 for my 95 GMX tests=it's fine. Same today. Very accurate. So is 2460.

Nothing wrong with a slightly faster powder, using lighter bullets, as long as the burn rate, powder uploading- doesn't accelerate faster than the bullet wt. drop=don't jump ahead of yourself as for being a speedster.
Iv'e been there. Fast is fun!
Your bolt will fail firstly- then the Carrier, upper receiver-, sadly you are next in line on a tube gun, such as an AR style of weapon. No buffer will save you from a death= yours.

Follow recommended loadings, stick to, and study all the charts , & info you can find from all the major manufacturers. Do not over load any round! Study the primers, trust what u see.

I will broadcast no more powder charges, to a non specified expert in the field of reloading- in this forum section. I will only respond to PM's of known levels of safe reloading habits- per team member. It's time to upgrade your own game.

If you need to ask every week of this rifle -and it's small issues, etc. That have been answered -over & over again= I still believe that a many underage kids are on this forum- that should not be!-Just tryin for info, whether it's for hunting purposes or not=this ends tonite,,,

Bwaites =maybe it's time for a recheck on the member lists.

I believe that you are mistaken.

As has been pointed out, 2200 is NOT the same as Ramshot Xterminator.

2200 was a once-off military surplus powder in the 90's that was reintroduced in 2010:

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DP2200.pdf

Burn rate for 2200 appears on this link:

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/burn_rates.pdf

It's a very good powder for 6.8 SPC, but I wasn't overly impressed with my trials using 2200 in 6.5 Grendel. It can work, but I don't view it as ideal.

[sneaky one]

My oops, Sorry gents. Too busy as always.AA 2230 is same as xterm.
I do not reside upon a high horse BTW. I resent that comment. We all make a mistake, as per ones lifetime.

[Schwag173]

Do you have a MLGS? That would probably help with cycling a really fast powder, since the 18" MLGS has a lot of dwell time.

Yes; both my 18" and 16" are mid-length gas systems. You called that one!