RAR6.5 hand loads with CFE223?

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  • JCart
    Bloodstained
    • Nov 2021
    • 25

    RAR6.5 hand loads with CFE223?

  • Old Bob
    Warrior
    • Oct 2019
    • 969

    #2
    Welcome to the Horde JCart...

    CFE223 & 100gn bullet loads are sparse for the 6.5 Grendel. The Grendel Vol. II handbook has one load using CFE223 & 100gn Hornady AMAX bullets. The ELD-M is Hornady's replacement for the AMAX. With CCI450 primers, it shows a starting load of 32gns & a Max of 34.1gns. From a 24in barrel it shows a velocity range of 2836fps to 3000fps. If I were to use the 100gn Partitions & ELD-Ms, I'd probably start another 3gns lighter at 29gns.

    If you don't have the Grendel reloading handbooks, you ought to order a set. There's a wealth of information in them from guys who have already worked up loads for this cartridge.

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    Last edited by Old Bob; 04-05-2022, 02:57 AM.
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    • biodsl
      Chieftain
      • Aug 2011
      • 1767

      #3
      Originally posted by Old Bob View Post
      If you don't have the Grendel reloading handbooks, you ought to order a set. There's a wealth of information in them from guys who have already worked up loads for this cartridge.
      Second this. I found volume II particularly good.
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      • outbreaker
        Warrior
        • Feb 2018
        • 145

        #4
        CFE223 was listed on the Hodgdon website for years. Now it has disappeared. I think due to the way it spikes hard at the top end of the safe range.

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        • VASCAR2
          Chieftain
          • Mar 2011
          • 6275

          #5

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          • JCart
            Bloodstained
            • Nov 2021
            • 25

            #6

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            • LRRPF52
              Super Moderator
              • Sep 2014
              • 8865

              #7
              NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO

              CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor

              6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:

              www.AR15buildbox.com

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              • Remington Jim
                Bloodstained
                • Apr 2020
                • 89

                #8
                Last edited by Remington Jim; 04-15-2022, 04:12 PM.

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                • LRRPF52
                  Super Moderator
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8865

                  #9
                  NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO

                  CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor

                  6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:

                  www.AR15buildbox.com

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                  • northdude
                    Bloodstained
                    • May 2020
                    • 52

                    #10
                    I tried cfe223 in my howa with 85 and 90gr bullets but seemed really slow. Went to 748. Give that a try if you have some

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                    • JCart
                      Bloodstained
                      • Nov 2021
                      • 25

                      #11
                      Last edited by JCart; 04-08-2022, 04:48 PM.

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                      • Stinky Coyote
                        Warrior
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 642

                        #12
                        Finally emerged from COVID-19 cave to test the Barnes 115 gr TAC-TX in gels Here are the initial results: On left, recovered from gel after impact at 1660 fps and 30" of penetration. On right, impact at 1940 fps and 22.5" penetration. Diameter of expanded petals was 0.51". I did not recover two shots


                        don't waste your time with the barnes JCart...eld-m 123's are the ultimate bullet for this cartridge, steel and hunting, 420 yards you'll land about 1800 fps with hornady black from that rifle, and does awesome work still at that distance, there's a fellow here that shot a whitetail buck with 1700 fps impact and recovered offside with a perfect mushroom, that will be somewhere around 500 yards in the ruger ranch at our elevations and would be a good outer limit threshold imo, we now know what to expect on big game right down to 1700 fps with that bullet, plenty of reports, the Grendel pretty much perfects the impact velocity range from barrel to 500 yards with the 123 eld-m and a 16" barrel, not much out there that can match that sort of efficiency imo, have fun with reloading but in reality if it shoots hornady black ~moa you'd never have to reload, I love that about this cartridge

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                        • Remington Jim
                          Bloodstained
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 89

                          #13
                          Hey Stinky what you think of the Horn 123 AMAX bullet - similar design to the ELDM i just picked up 300 for a good deal .

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                          • LRRPF52
                            Super Moderator
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8865

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Remington Jim View Post
                            Hey Stinky what you think of the Horn 123 AMAX bullet - similar design to the ELDM i just picked up 300 for a good deal .
                            NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO

                            CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor

                            6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:

                            www.AR15buildbox.com

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                            • Old Bob
                              Warrior
                              • Oct 2019
                              • 969

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Remington Jim View Post
                              Hey Stinky what you think of the Horn 123 AMAX bullet - similar design to the ELDM i just picked up 300 for a good deal .
                              Where did you find those Hornady AMAX bullets? Hornady quit making them in .264 cal when they came out with the ELD-M bullets. I still have a small stash of factory 6.5 Grendel 123gn AMAX ammo left (60 rounds). Wish I could find some of those AMAX bullets. The factory stuff shoots right at 1 MOA from my AR. The ELD-Ms will have to do for reloading, I suppose.
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