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  • A5BLASTER
    Chieftain
    • Mar 2015
    • 6192

    6.5 staball powder work ups.

    Ok gents got my staball powder in tonight.

    Thinking I will first try it out in some fresh Starline brass with a cci450 primer from my cz grendel varmint.

    Thinking of starting the ladder at 25 grains and do 1 round every .3 tenth increase till I feel the first round crunch some powder then I will stop there.

    Think I'm going to try the 129 ablr first.

    Will be running these over my magneto speed from my cz 527 varmint with the 25.5 inch barrel.

    Will update this Saturday when I get back from the range.
  • Nimrod
    Bloodstained
    • Aug 2016
    • 59

    #2
    Can?t wait!

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    • 65GbySeven
      Warrior
      • Dec 2018
      • 162

      #3
      Great News! Haven't been able to find this powder locally yet.

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      • A5BLASTER
        Chieftain
        • Mar 2015
        • 6192

        #4
        Originally posted by 65GbySeven View Post
        Great News! Haven't been able to find this powder locally yet.
        I had to order mine.

        Bout to get the chargmaster lite warmed up and start dropping charges.

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        • LRRPF52
          Super Moderator
          • Sep 2014
          • 8865

          #5
          Any reason not to load up with some cheaper bullets?

          Interested in your results.
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          • A5BLASTER
            Chieftain
            • Mar 2015
            • 6192

            #6
            Originally posted by LRRPF52 View Post
            Any reason not to load up with some cheaper bullets?

            Interested in your results.
            I have some cheaper ones to try. But tommorw range trip is centered around my cz grendel so figured I would start there.

            Also have some 129 ablr loaded with h4895 to test as well as 120 gold dot with varget and 85 Maker Trex loaded with h335.

            Plus will be dialing in the new scope with American gunner and useing that ammo too get base line velocitys.

            Next range trip I plan on testing 6.5 staball with 90 tnt, 123 eld-m, 123 nosler CC.

            Since deer season is almost over the cz will get the most development time right now, then I will shift over to the ar grendels.

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            • A5BLASTER
              Chieftain
              • Mar 2015
              • 6192

              #7
              Ok first set of data.

              Just finished getting the ladder loaded. Started at 2.260 coal. Ladder starred at 25 grains and went up to 30.8 grains.

              Started seating and vibrasettling the powder. Didn't take long before I was crushing powder and getting push back from the powder. Think it was the 26.6 round that I noticed it. I was seating and measuring each round as it came out the press.

              So I backed up and punted. My mags allow a max coal of 2.300 so I pulled the bullets and reseated at 2.295 coal.

              Seating at 2.295 allowed me to get all the way to 30.8 grains. At 30.8 grains and vibrasettling the powder there was just a hint of crunching happening.

              2.295 coal gives me a jump of 85 thousands in my cz varmint grendel.

              Will be interesting to see what my 16 inch ar grendel can do with this combo when I get around to testing it in that barrel. I have a windowed six8 pmag for that rifle that will allow me to run 5 rounds at a coal of 2.350.

              So unless your useing mags that allow 2.300 coal the 129 ablr is probably going to be to much bullet with this powder for you.

              I will be single loading these in my cz tommorw and will be basicly face deep in the magneto speed's screen watching for anything hinky.

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              • Popeye212
                Chieftain
                • Jan 2018
                • 1598

                #8
                Originally posted by A5BLASTER View Post
                Ok first set of data.

                Just finished getting the ladder loaded. Started at 2.260 coal. Ladder starred at 25 grains and went up to 30.8 grains.

                Started seating and vibrasettling the powder. Didn't take long before I was crushing powder and getting push back from the powder. Think it was the 26.6 round that I noticed it. I was seating and measuring each round as it came out the press.

                So I backed up and punted. My mags allow a max coal of 2.300 so I pulled the bullets and reseated at 2.295 coal.

                Seating at 2.295 allowed me to get all the way to 30.8 grains. At 30.8 grains and vibrasettling the powder there was just a hint of crunching happening.

                2.295 coal gives me a jump of 85 thousands in my cz varmint grendel.

                Will be interesting to see what my 16 inch ar grendel can do with this combo when I get around to testing it in that barrel. I have a windowed six8 pmag for that rifle that will allow me to run 5 rounds at a coal of 2.350.

                So unless your useing mags that allow 2.300 coal the 129 ablr is probably going to be to much bullet with this powder for you.

                I will be single loading these in my cz tommorw and will be basicly face deep in the magneto speed's screen watching for anything hinky.
                Here we go "tweaking" again....

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                • A5BLASTER
                  Chieftain
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 6192

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Popeye212 View Post
                  Here we go "tweaking" again....
                  Lol always and forever lol. Sadly I'm not going to make it to the range today. Weather turned wet today. So I went killed a deer.

                  Watch later today for a report on it. DNS has the pics, and the fusion bullet didn't fail to produce.

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                  • PGW Steve
                    Bloodstained
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 60

                    #10
                    I'm thinking it will be pretty slow in the Grendel, looking forward to your test.

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                    • Rosecrans1
                      Warrior
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 435

                      #11
                      For what it's worth, the new Hodgdon's 2020 Annual Manual naturally is touting the StaBALL 6.5 powder. (It's their powder and their advertising). There is a lot of good info on the powder however, they don't specifically site the Grendel in the actual story. It's mostly about StaBall and the Creedmores and 6mm GT. In the annual load data, there are but 7 loads listed for the Grendel and none mention StaBALL.

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                      • LR1955
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 3372

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rosecrans1 View Post
                        For what it's worth, the new Hodgdon's 2020 Annual Manual naturally is touting the StaBALL 6.5 powder. (It's their powder and their advertising). There is a lot of good info on the powder however, they don't specifically site the Grendel in the actual story. It's mostly about StaBall and the Creedmores and 6mm GT. In the annual load data, there are but 7 loads listed for the Grendel and none mention StaBALL.
                        RC1:

                        That's because StaBall is too slow for the Grendel. It will be totally safe to shoot but the velocities will be very low.

                        LR55

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                        • A5BLASTER
                          Chieftain
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 6192

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LR1955 View Post
                          RC1:

                          That's because StaBall is too slow for the Grendel. It will be totally safe to shoot but the velocities will be very low.

                          LR55
                          That's what I'm thinking as well. It's going to be slow. But never hurts to try something atleast once.

                          Lil data is always good.

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                          • Popeye212
                            Chieftain
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 1598

                            #14
                            When I get my hands on some which will be after Christmas I am going to load it in the Creed. Too slow for the Grendel. Still be interesting to see what A5 twerks up with it.

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                            • A5BLASTER
                              Chieftain
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 6192

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Popeye212 View Post
                              When I get my hands on some which will be after Christmas I am going to load it in the Creed. Too slow for the Grendel. Still be interesting to see what A5 twerks up with it.
                              Stand by for details. Just back from the range. Got to get my data book out and then get too typing it up.

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