Hornady 130gr ELD-Match

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  • Second
    Warrior
    • Oct 2017
    • 240

    #16
    Originally posted by Sticks View Post
    Why would you settle on the worst of the 4?

    28.4 to 28.5 look to be a better area.
    Maybe not really gave that enough thoughts.
    Just felt that I have got quite stable speeds before with 28,3gr during testing. And the SD/ES have been high on all of them. Or higher than I would like.

    Could go with the 28,4gr also.

    I have got some high spikes with 28,36gr so 28,5gr can be a little to close to that.
    But 28,4gr will probably work.

    Or maybe I to another test.
    I can load up 10 rounds of 28,3gr and 28,4gr and see what result I get. This is a quick test and will give a final result witch one to use.
    Last edited by Second; 10-08-2018, 10:47 AM.

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    • Sticks
      Chieftain
      • Dec 2016
      • 1922

      #17
      Any shot groups, or just speed testing?
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      • Second
        Warrior
        • Oct 2017
        • 240

        #18

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        • Second
          Warrior
          • Oct 2017
          • 240

          #19
          Went to the range to test different jump with the Hornady 130gr ELD-M.
          Powder VV N140 and load 28,4gr.


          I shot the rounds in a "Round Robin"-style and went from shortest jump to highest, from highest to shortest and then back and forth until the bullets were all gone.
          The distance is 100 meters, prone position, 5 shots.
          I took quite big jumps (0,4mm/jump) to get a big spread and then try to narrow this down one more time. And here ar target results:

          1.
          Jump: 0,2mm (0,0078")
          IMG_2715.JPG

          2.
          Jump: 0,6mm (0,0236")
          IMG_2716.JPG

          3.
          Jump: 1,0mm (0,0393")
          IMG_2717.JPG

          4
          Jump: 1,4mm (0,0551")
          IMG_2718.JPG

          5
          Jump: 1,8mm (0,0708")
          IMG_2719.JPG

          Nr 4 looks really good, and the sad is that it was the last bullet that went low...
          I got nervous
          Nr 3 also looks interesting.

          Before I say anything regarding future plans, anyone else that have any input on how to qontinue?

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          • tracker12
            Warrior
            • Dec 2017
            • 167

            #20
            I like to find a anther good shooter and run the same test. Results sometimes can be interesting
            AR's make shooting fun again!

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            • Sticks
              Chieftain
              • Dec 2016
              • 1922

              #21
              1 ,3 and 4 all look good. Almost kissing the lands on #1. Thank you for the detail. I will have to write that down in my book.

              Damn nice shooting. I'd say load up 20 of the two that you like and shoot four, 5 round groups. See which ones runs best.

              I plan on testing my 130s ELDs again this weekend. I have selected 3 charges (from a test a long while back) and loaded up 5 each. AA2520 and LeverRevoloution. Two stupid low SD charges (.2 fps on one) and a .6 moa group. COAL is 1.320 (sorry, not doing the conversion today). Mag length for my Howa. I can't remember the ogive measurement. Most of that test session was two holes overlapped and a stray - all 3 shot groups.

              I also loaded up 10 rounds of 130 RDF and RL26 for (roo roo) Becky, my 6.5 PRC. Hope that she will like them, if not, then I have some expensive paperweights.
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              • Second
                Warrior
                • Oct 2017
                • 240

                #22
                Last edited by Second; 10-18-2018, 08:11 AM.

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                • Sticks
                  Chieftain
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 1922

                  #23
                  I look forward to your next round of testing.

                  I am pretty sure that the two powders I am running are double based. I am also running at a much higher velocity.

                  I was stunned when I saw that .2 SD. If it repeats, I'll be playing the seating depth game with you to see how well it tightens up.

                  We have one member here that had success with the RDF, and he already puts a lot of work into his brass prep. Not sure if that was the key, or he just has a barrel that likes them.

                  After my early promising results with the ELD, I will stick with it. This is strictly going to be food for the 4 Howa rifles in my clan (Girlfriend and her two daughters + me).
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                  • Second
                    Warrior
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 240

                    #24
                    Ok.
                    I was a bit surprised on the SD figures I got. since I have used this powder for other bullets and got better results. Both the 140gr ELD-M and the Scenar-L 136gr had this powder.
                    One thought was to try double based powder and I will get a delivery any day now on VV N530. This powder is double based and will probably give more speed and less pressure. Or same speed and less pressure on less powder. Have been on the high end of the stick regarding pressure, compressed loads and full cases. Sometimes hard to even get the bullet seated enough.
                    So will do a separate test with that powder but I will continue on the thread with the same bullet.
                    Either way.
                    That will be an interesting powder. On the published powders for VV the N530 is used on ALL listed bullets, from 100gr up to 156gr. If this works, this can be the powder that will work for all bullets that I plan to use, and even more.
                    And for me this is a good thing since the N530 can be found in stores nerby.
                    We have a VERY small range of powders here in Sweden so if I find something that works OK I will probably stick with it.

                    Hope not that case prep is the "must do"-thing since this is probably something that I rush by...
                    I have some benchrest friends and they look at case prep and barrel cleaning a bit different than me.

                    Nice to have a clan!
                    My wife have no idea what I do (thank god).
                    And the kids are to small for use of any rifle bigger than a air gun. But maybe later. And by that time I might be ready with all testing

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                    • Sticks
                      Chieftain
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 1922

                      #25
                      I can't seem to get the SD and ES low, but the grouping is nice. It is about the level of my skillset.

                      130 ELD_Page_2.jpg

                      I did have one set from my 6.5 PRC loads that was a spooky SD of .5 and ES of 1.
                      130 ELD_Page_1.jpg
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                      • Second
                        Warrior
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 240

                        #26
                        Finally had the time to perform the second test with the jump on this bullet and load.

                        Did however a really big mind**** when loading this and therefore there are 7 different jumps tested...
                        Find out the obvious that if the ogive measure is shorter, the jump is bigger. Lesson learned.

                        Shooting was performed prone at 100meters, bipods and small bag under buttstock. Bullets firing in a "Round Robin"-style. Beginning form smallest jump going up to highest jump, back from highest jump down to smallest and back-and-forth until all bullets were shot. So each group/jump is not shot complete and then the next one.
                        About +2 deg. celcius and almost no wind.

                        1.
                        1,1mm (0,0433")
                        IMG_2820.JPG

                        2.
                        1,2mm (0,0472")
                        IMG_2821.JPG

                        3.
                        1,3mm (0,0511")
                        IMG_2822.JPG

                        4.
                        1,4mm (0,0551")
                        IMG_2823.JPG

                        5.
                        1,5mm (0,0590")
                        IMG_2824.JPG

                        6.
                        1,6mm (0,0629")
                        IMG_2825.JPG

                        7.
                        1,7mm (0,0669")
                        IMG_2826.JPG

                        Another lesson learned is that I need to take more breaks during shooting. The concentration shifted alot and the shooting was not good in the end.
                        But the result is what it is.
                        Was a bit surprised on the #1. An this because the #2 was not good at all. The #4 was also good and this jump was the better one from the first test also. The #3 was good until the last shot that went low right and the same with the #5, last shot low right. So maybe the #4 with the 1,4mm jump is the keeper.
                        Initial thought is to load up some rounds from the #1 and #4 and shoot them and see if they still performs.
                        Last edited by LRRPF52; 02-12-2020, 05:03 PM. Reason: F-bomb, carry on

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                          Chieftain
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 1922

                          #27
                          I kind of had the same issue yesterday my own self. Previous test gave me a nice group with AA2520. So I loaded up 40 and shot a bunch of 5 round groups. All but 2 sucked and the 2 that didn't weren't up to my standards. Back to the board again.
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                          • Second
                            Warrior
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 240

                            #28
                            On the range yesterday morning.
                            Test with the 130gr ELD-M and VV N140 and two different jump.
                            the #1 and #4 from previous test. Loaded up 10 rounds of each jump and shot them in 5 shot groups.
                            Prone at 100m.

                            Here are the result on paper:

                            1.
                            #1 with 1,1mm jump (0,0433")
                            IMG_2844.JPG
                            2.
                            #4 with 1,4mm jump (0,0551")
                            IMG_2845.JPG

                            Not that super excited with any of the results.
                            It felt good on the range, but not that good on the target.
                            The #1 went a lot better last time. Maybe just luck that time. The #4 preformed better last time, but better than the #1 this time.
                            Not sure how to proceed from this. Maybe just stick with the #4.

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                            • Sticks
                              Chieftain
                              • Dec 2016
                              • 1922

                              #29
                              I'd stick with #4 on this one.
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                              • Second
                                Warrior
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 240

                                #30

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